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Jane Valerie's avatar

"This ideology does not just deny biology; it declares war against it.”

“Now it’s time to kick in doors, right? Come on, FBI, do some door kicking. Round ‘em up! The violent Antifa members, the ‘Trantifa’ members—it’s time, okay?!"

These two quotes really stand out, a designation of being transgender as an "ideology" "at war" with conservatives beliefs, and a direct call for violence against trans people.

This by definition is stochastic terrorism against trans people.

Aleksandra Vaca's avatar

You’ve hit the nail right on the head. Conservatives, at this point, are beginning to view anything that is at odds with their religion as an existential threat to the christian nation they wish to build. This kind of stuff leads to hate crimes—which I can assure you they are well aware of—and leads to more radicalisation among their own base.

EleanorLambWrites's avatar

I fully believe that not only are they aware of it, they want it. They want trans people to die. Death and suffering is their entire goal. Conservatives are evil to their core.

Nova's avatar

Thats fascism anything not in service of the community is a threat to the community

serghiy's avatar

…”at this point”?!

…you must be new to the radical movement of christian NAZIS

…it’s ALWAYS been a goal, just like women’s voting rights and power of divorce, where the fuck have you been all these years when they openly propagating eradication of trans people, or do you think they will leave gay rights and gay marriage alone?

…”Support for Christian Nationalism in All 50 States: Findings from PRRI’s 2023 American Values Atlas”

02.28.2024

https://prri.org/research/support-for-christian-nationalism-in-all-50-states/

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Nix Butterfield's avatar

have you seen some trans people? probably not because they look the SAME as normal cis people even though they transitioned. do you want to have women go into men restrooms? that would be even worse then what is already happening. get the fuck over yourself and grow up. just because we aren't white cis people doesn't mean we should get attacked. why cant we live are lives happily. fuck this forsaken country.

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No trans woman that you notice passes. Just as no trans man that you notice passes.

But what about the ones you pass by completely unaware. I promise that they exist, I know a few of them.

The most ridiculous part of all this is that some of those “non-passing trans people” that you see are not trans at all and are standard cisgender people who just happen to look less like your expectations.

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Nix Butterfield's avatar

this is why you cant argue with a republican. if you give them any evidence they just say "nuh uh" and scream the same point again even if it is wrong.

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Thomas S's avatar

“Men are men. Men can never become women. Women are women. Women can never become men.”

Yes, indeed. This is why we need G.A.C. to be universally available, because people should not be forced to live as the incorrect gender. To be clear in what I mean— a trans woman is and always was a woman. A trans man is and always has been a man. He was so close with this quote, and yet, so far from actual understanding.

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Just a Guy's avatar

It would be nice if people like you would get some therapy. 🥰

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Just a Guy's avatar

I literally don’t even watch porn. I’m so sorry you have so little going on in your life that you have to behave like a toddler throwing a tantrum over something you don’t agree with that *literally doesn’t even affect your life* 🥰

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Aleksandra Vaca's avatar

Okay, then name a way it affects your life. Go on, do it! How does what I do with MY body affect your life?

Nix Butterfield's avatar

oh no you got a point that makes sense. if you call people illogical then how come when people argue with you you just say "Fuck you" this is more pathetic then a toddler begging for attention

Thomas S's avatar

Gonna hold your hand while I say this.. You may not know it, but you have a choice. You can enjoy hobbies, time with loved ones, etc. and literally never notice an effect in your life due to people living differently than you. But, brace yourself for this one, you are CHOOSING to steep in hatred and it is only hurting you. I suggest logging off, even temporarily. I’m no expert, but, a bit of a break from this may help you enjoy your life a bit more?

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Just a Guy's avatar

Maam, you are sitting here on the internet making WILD assumptions about people. I am just over here working in my business and taking care of my family and watching Netflix every night with my wife. Perhaps you should indeed take my advice and GET SOME FUCKING THERAPY YOU FKN TWIT!

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Kimberly (she/her)'s avatar

Why do you care? How does it affect you for someone who was born male to live as female. How does it impact your daily life? I would bet money you call yourself a Christian. Too bad you don't live like one. Go look in the mirror and see how ugly your hate makes you.

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Kimberly (she/her)'s avatar

I was born female, am still female and embrace being female. I would rather share "our" space with a trans woman than with a raging, hateful bigot like you. I'm not insane. In fact, I'd turn that back on you. If you think that cis males need to put on a dress and some make up to act on their twisted desire to hurt women, you're the one with a loose screw. Also, you're wrong about trans people being universally hated. There are more of us out here knowing that people have a right to live their lives in peace than people like you, living their lives filled with hate.

Just a Guy's avatar

Do you feel better now that you've been a jerk to someone you'll never even meet? Did that make you feel big and powerful to say?

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Just a Guy's avatar

Do YOU feel better now that you have been rude and unkind to strangers online? Do YOU feel like a big man? I bet you do. 🥰

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Just a Guy's avatar

Since when is working and paying bills and cooking meals for my family being a predator 😂 please get some therapy! It’ll change your life. 🥰

Nix Butterfield's avatar

why cant we just be happy. we are trying to live our best lives but people like you stop us from being happy. it is just like getting plastic surgery to feel better about yourself why cant people understand it.

Robin Elise's avatar

OK. I will try to be patient & explain this to you like you’re three years old. (Apologies if I’ve overestimated.)

Trans women are women from birth. We were never men, regardless of what people thought when they looked at our newborn crotches. We do not change gender when we transition — regardless of how old we are when we do so — we simply stop pretending to be the gender we never were. (Similarly, trans men were never women.)

You’re welcome. Go forth & spread ignorance no more. Bye.

Robin Elise's avatar

It always sickens me how easily the unaware & uneducated swallow such bizarre, ridiculous bullshit.

It’s the identical methodology I saw growing up that was used to promote the idea that Blacks are inherently more violent & less intelligent than other races, plus — for good measure — genetically incapable of morality.

Fuck.

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beryl's avatar

Trans women are far more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators of it. I'm sure you know that (or maybe you don't, because you've never looked into it other than repeating talking points), but it bears repeating for anyone who might see your comment and think you know what you're talking about.

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beryl's avatar

the world doesn't hate trans people, you just do. of course, you don't see trans people as people -- you'd much rather dehumanize us and pretend we're scary monsters. to do otherwise might make you realize that someone you know and love could be trans. the sad thing is that no one who might be able to open your eyes to our basic humanity would probably never feel comfortable coming out to you, because of this exact vitriol.

i truly, genuinely feel sorry for you. you live your life obsessed with what other people do with their own bodies, screaming from the rooftops that it's better to force trans people out of public life than to get over your own weird biases and hangups. i hope one day your eyes are opened. failing that, i hope you'll at least have the sense and decency to keep your hatefulness to yourself

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Aleksandra Vaca's avatar

And when you get those three you'll change that to "I know they already got out of women's bathrooms and sports and prisons, but as long as men stay the fuck out of schools and libraries and sidewalks and movies and homes and my life entirely we'll be fine."

beryl's avatar

no trans person is advocating for men to be in women's spaces. your position, on the other hand, is that women who don't meet your definition of womanhood SHOULD be forced to use the bathroom with men, play sports against men, and share prisons with men. you're the one advocating for men who don't meet your definition to be forced to be in shared spaces with women.

or do you think that you'd be more comfortable in a bathroom with a trans man in the bathroom with you? obviously people don't need to pass to be trans, but you do know that plenty of trans men DO, right? so, let's say you get your way. trans women can't use women's restrooms, and trans men have to. when a man with a full beard who's been on testosterone for years but just happens to share the same set of genitals as you comes into the same restroom as you, are you truly going to welcome him? are you going to be ok with that? or are you going to start campaigning against the fact that you've now forced men into these spaces?

you say that as long as men stay out of women's bathrooms, sports, and prisons, then you don't have a problem. but as soon as you force men to do the thing you're fear mongering about, you're going to campaign to remove trans people from public life entirely, because now there are ACTUAL men being forced into spaces with women where they don't want to be. how about you let people use the bathroom in peace and stop worrying about what's in other people's pants?

Overweening Generalist's avatar

As a heterosexual white male, I've yet to see any real evidence that kids are "groomed" to change their sex. But even that is beside the point.

What do I care if someone feels - or knows, deep to the core of their being - like they were born in the wrong body? Let them transition. We want people to be happy, and with the latest science, we've gotten better and better at this, and it's marvelous to me. I see no issue here. Because I'm not a christian fascist. But that's beside the point.

What is the point is that these Christian fascist busy-bodies are miserable and never learned how to think or be creative; they don't have actual lives. When you've actually gotten a life - something you love to do that's creative - you find you're okay with other people, as long as they're not actively doing harm to others. Hell: you LIKE the differences between us! Personally, I love all the differences. You don't need to marinate 24/7 in hateful bullshit ideology that (often) has nothing to do with reality.

My gawd these monstrous losers. This is a nightmare.

But instead of looking within and dropping the blame for their misery and frustration about not having a life, they feel the need to scapegoat their misery and they feel safe in punching down upon those who are creative or who have nothing to do with their misery. Like trans people.

They're clueless assholes who want someone to blame because of their misery. They don't know why they're unhappy, so maybe by persecuting others they'll feel better.

Every trans person I've ever met was a thoughtful, smart, sweetheart of a person. That's just my limited, personal experience. I'm sure there are jerks who are trans; I simply haven't met them.

This turn by the fascist losers feels ominous to me. Their argument is bullshit. (BTW: thank goddess Substack allows us to block certain dipshits in the comment area.)

Larry Erickson's avatar

"I've yet to see any real evidence"

Hell, I've yet to see any at all. It's just accusations probably driven by their own repressed lurid fantasies.

Overweening Generalist's avatar

Yea, any “evidence” I’ve seen seemed like typical MAGAt crap. I’ve seen them - aggrieved lifeless busybody losers - gin up BS since I was knee high to a tardigrade: beginning of the Dark Ages: Reagan got elected.

The horror now is these twits are packed to the rafters in power-positions. In places where they could actually do incalculable harm. As Aleksandra elucidates articulately here. We have to hang together, or…you know how that aphorism goes. Trans people are real Americans with brothers and sisters and friends and loved ones and who contribute to society as much as anyone else. Eff this noise by the latest CDC quack!

I mean actual evidence. Mathematics of probability would suggest there are bad apples across the spectrum, so this must be there, although I’m not sure what “grooming” or recruitment actually mean in fine detail. Probably because it’s all BULLSHIT.

Larry Erickson's avatar

"knee high to a tardigrade"

I like that.

I'll probably steal it, 'specially 'cause tardigrades are cool. :-)

Just a Guy's avatar

I can’t see the comment you just left me because I blocked that psycho, but thank you for the kind words. I have chosen not to get too involved with online arguments, but you know, gotta keep my debate skills from getting too rusty once in a while- and I’m feeling pretty spicy today. 😂

I will vehemently support trans women until the day I die. It does always entertain me when TERFs erroneously assume I want to be a woman. I wish them all MUCH therapy in 2026 and beyond! 🤪

Aleksandra Vaca's avatar

I can totally relate—I argue with them because I love debating people to. Sometimes I ignore them but it can be fun to see just how insane they get...

Also, thanks for supporting us! It makes me so happy to see solidarity between trans men and trans women <3

Just a Guy's avatar

Absolutely! We gotta support each other!

Saywhat?'s avatar

How about play with your own balls, and stay out of other people’s life. You’re the Perverts and Pedophiles. Just ask the President about how many children did he rape.

Saywhat?'s avatar

I’ve got a much better idea! Remove all pedophiles from public office.

Tabris's avatar

I am readying for this and will defend my community.

Hall's avatar

The root of all evil are abusive assaultive evil men.

Solve that and we will have a kinder gentler nation and world.

But nope. These men get even more evil when people try to stop them. Sick.

Tempest Holmes's avatar

I am so fucking tired of fucking republicans. May they get all they deserve and may it hurt like hell the whole damn time.

Larry Erickson's avatar

We knew this was coming, we had to. Several years ago various restrictions and bans on GAC for "youth" extended the definition of the term to 26. Others arose to block insurance coverage for anyone at any age. The focus on "youth," on "OMG! The children! SAVE THE CHILDREN!" was never the goal, it was the starting point, the wedge issue, the camel's nose under the tent.

It's the same reason for making bathroom and sports bans points of attack; they were deliberately chosen as ways to get people used to the idea of "othering" trans folks, of seeing them as "not us" and so less deserving of concern and then respect and then even acknowledgment.

It has nothing to do with protecting children, nothing to do with religious belief except to the extent it provides convenient excuses. It's about bigotry and shrunken souls and the drive for political power to enforce the one and normalize the other.

Which means nothing is to be gained by being nice or accommodating to the bigots; although some individuals have changed (for example, George Wallace's late-in-life regret for his earlier racism seemed genuine) it is rare enough to be on a "you'll have to prove it to me" basis.

The hard reality is that the enemy - bigotry - is rarely overcome, it always exists even when it is driven to the shadows by being made socially unacceptable.

What it can be, however, and what has been and can continue to be our basis for a more humane, a more just, future, is outlasted. Because in a dark time, survival is resistance. Sooner or later, sooner or later, enough people will get angry enough, enough people will see clearly enough, enough people will have hope enough, to take back their futures - if only we can survive this dark time. Which I fully and perhaps foolishly believe we will.

And if I can end with two more cliche-ish quotes:

"Nothing we do is for nothing." - I first heard that from Daniel Ellsberg but I don't know if he was quoting someone else.

"What is once well done is done forever." - Henry David Thoreau, "On the Duty of Civil Disobedience."

Oh wait, one more: Carry it on. And never forget no one of us is actually alone.

Larry Erickson's avatar

I add this comment by way of a footnote.

Re-reading that, I realize that it sounds as if I am saying I am trans. I am not.

I do think of myself as a staunch ally, and in my last couple of paragraphs I was thinking of a community of transgender folks and allies alike, of that whole, while intending to remind and reassure trans folks that you are not alone, you have friends you can count on for support.

I apologize if anyone was misled by my perhaps overly-broad language.

Simone Ona- musha's avatar

They are Yahtzees , same language as 90 yrs ago in Germany , same low IQ sheep following a narcissistic leader

Lily Eizabeth's avatar

They are terrible human beings and a time of reckoning is coming. Down with the regime, and down with Christian Nationalism. I stand with all trans people and Gaza. 🇵🇸

melotak's avatar

This is the proof they are setting the stage for death camps. Like Hitler, they start with the trans community, we kniw how this goes.

Dan Angell's avatar

I hope they do try, because it is clear that their attacks on trans people are losing steam fast. Two-thirds of Americans just said that Republicans are far too focused on trans people, and those people don’t want to hear about Becky in West Virginia wanting to run with her friends; they want to hear what’s going to be done to lower costs. If Republicans run on this, this is going to backfire hard on them.

Sean Higgins's avatar

When inside you soon realize that it’s the trans folk that have all the power. I’d love to see any of these assholes go up against a transwoman.

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Sean Higgins's avatar

There is a difference between hate and survival, this is why the US has never won a war.

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Sean Higgins's avatar

I did not mean to sound argumentative or combative, I apologize. I was simply stating a general fact, dialoguing about the dangers of judging books by their covers and assumptions in general. Peace